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the hamas rockets came toward beersheba. from the outside it didn't look too bad, but inside is another story. a mother, father and four of their children were inside the home. when the sirens went off they had less than a minute. they made it. they did -- the husband says we went to the safe room, closed the door, we heard a big boom. straight after that an electric outage. he says the young girls were in a little hysteria. we were lucky we entered the safe room. his wife said the fire was to protect the children, then when they saw the incredible damage, they were stunned. their 9-year-old said she is was frightened when she heard the initial siren and then the large explosion. an israeli member of parliament minced no words in what he thought israel had to do. >> all my sons, four of them, they are ready to go. >> but there's a major debail on whether that's rise. >> a former air force xharchder says he hopes the naval and airpower can get it done. 11 hamas rockets entered the vicinity while we were there. some were inter
the hamas rockets came toward beersheba. from the outside it didn't look too bad, but inside is another story. a mother, father and four of their children were inside the home. when the sirens went off they had less than a minute. they made it. they did -- the husband says we went to the safe room, closed the door, we heard a big boom. straight after that an electric outage. he says the young girls were in a little hysteria. we were lucky we entered the safe room. his wife said the fire was to...
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the big rift is between the fattah movement which rules the west bank and gaza here in hamas. this is what the palestinian president had to say about the need to restore palestinian unity. >> translator: it's a naked aversion against our people in gaza. they also want to create unity between two parts of the homeland. they want to end the palestinian divergence and to restore unification. >> reporter: and meanwhile, the palestinians here are awaiting high-profile visits by the secretary general of the arab league and a delegation of four arab foreign ministers. many people here in gaza hoping the diplomacy will start to eclipse war. gary? >> ben wedeman, thank you for joining us on the program. ben wedeman reporting from the gaza strip. >>> now let's go near the southern border of gaza. what's happening on the southern border and how active have the iron dome missiles been? >> reporter: well, the iron dome missile system has really played a prominent role here, but generally around the whole area around gaza today. i was actually at one of the iron dome missile batteries near
the big rift is between the fattah movement which rules the west bank and gaza here in hamas. this is what the palestinian president had to say about the need to restore palestinian unity. >> translator: it's a naked aversion against our people in gaza. they also want to create unity between two parts of the homeland. they want to end the palestinian divergence and to restore unification. >> reporter: and meanwhile, the palestinians here are awaiting high-profile visits by the...
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did hamas claim responsibility? did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas. not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza and the continuation of aggression. ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said that when that -- the bombing was announced from loud speakers in mosques, there was some celebratory gunfire heard throughout the city in gaza city. i spoke with christiane amanpour about her interview with the hamas leader. christiane, you repeatedly pressed the head of hamas about whether or not they would ever recognize israel. he gave a lot of talking points. you really pressed him on it. this is finally what he had to say. let's listen. >> you say that you would accept a two-state solution, but that you will not recognize israel's right to exist. >> t
did hamas claim responsibility? did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas. not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza and the continuation of aggression. ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our...
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full solace for hamas. no victory for hamas. for ramallah, he is really on the sidelines and we can talk about it later. he wants to bring the issue of palestinian statehood to the u.n. on november 29th. that too is a false road. there really isn't a palestinian way through the gun and through hamas. >> no military solution frankly to this conflict by either side. some sort of political solution down the road. that roadmap seems very far off. at this point, hearing distant sounds of explosions, not anywhere in central gaza city, far off in the distance. we'll continue to broadcast from here, also from jerusalem, from the israeli side of the border, border towns have been hard hit over the last seven to eight days and talk to israeli ambassador to the u.s. when we come back. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some numbers from my assistan
full solace for hamas. no victory for hamas. for ramallah, he is really on the sidelines and we can talk about it later. he wants to bring the issue of palestinian statehood to the u.n. on november 29th. that too is a false road. there really isn't a palestinian way through the gun and through hamas. >> no military solution frankly to this conflict by either side. some sort of political solution down the road. that roadmap seems very far off. at this point, hearing distant sounds of...
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hamas is claiming its own trophy. the group's military wing says it has shot down a military f-16 and damaged two other israeli aircraft. israel denies losing any aircraft. egypt is trying to stop this war before it is too late. cairo's intelligence chief is spearheading talks to end the violence. but on the border, peace looks like an unlikely prospect. our senior international correspondent, ben wedeman joins us now between the border between israel and gaza. ben, ground war, are we about to witness that? >> reporter: i don't think immediately, don. i think there's still time needed to get the israeli military ready for a ground invasion. keep in mind that gaza is an area just twice the size of washington, d.c., with a population of 1.5 million people. any military force that goes in there has got to contend with the possibility of a lot of civilian casualties and a fair amount of resistance, from hamas fighters. now, what we're seeing here on the border are intense preparations, all night long. we've been watching
hamas is claiming its own trophy. the group's military wing says it has shot down a military f-16 and damaged two other israeli aircraft. israel denies losing any aircraft. egypt is trying to stop this war before it is too late. cairo's intelligence chief is spearheading talks to end the violence. but on the border, peace looks like an unlikely prospect. our senior international correspondent, ben wedeman joins us now between the border between israel and gaza. ben, ground war, are we about to...
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ever since hamas is in power. i think that after this conflict is over and palestinians in the west bank and in gaza will think about what has happened, they will understand that none of this would have happened had hamas not adopted this -- you called it a rejectionist policy. it's not rejectionist. it's a holy war policy. their only project is holy war until the bitter end, until they destroy israel, and this is something the palestinians need to think about very seriously. is this what they want for gaza for the west bank, for themselves, or do they want to find a path to negotiate peace with israel and co-exist peacefully in two separate independent secure states. i think it's for the palestinians to make that choice and until then, if our security is threatened, if israeli civilians come under fire, then we will take whatever measures are needed to protect them. at the same time, we are still willing to discuss and to negotiate with the palestinian authority a peace deal. we are willing to talk any time witho
ever since hamas is in power. i think that after this conflict is over and palestinians in the west bank and in gaza will think about what has happened, they will understand that none of this would have happened had hamas not adopted this -- you called it a rejectionist policy. it's not rejectionist. it's a holy war policy. their only project is holy war until the bitter end, until they destroy israel, and this is something the palestinians need to think about very seriously. is this what they...
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israel's prime minister says hamas can end all this. bd ben wedeman is watching the conflict play out. >> reporter: we've seen apparent urgent action by the israeli army in this area to get as much material, tanks, armoured personnel carriers and troops in the area around gaza in obvious preparation for a potential ground invasion of the gaza strip. but a decision to actually go in has to come from the leadership, from prime minister benjamin netanyahu and from his security cabinet. that has not come yet. on sunday, it's expected that the secretary general of arab league is going to come to gaza with four arab foreign ministers. it may be difficult to launch a ground invasion while just a high-level group is there. we understand that intense contacts are under way between israel and the united states to potentially talk about a cease-fire. i spoke with a senior israeli spokesman who flatly denied reports that some sort of negotiated cease-fire was on the way. at this point, don, it definitely seems that that things are moving in the dir
israel's prime minister says hamas can end all this. bd ben wedeman is watching the conflict play out. >> reporter: we've seen apparent urgent action by the israeli army in this area to get as much material, tanks, armoured personnel carriers and troops in the area around gaza in obvious preparation for a potential ground invasion of the gaza strip. but a decision to actually go in has to come from the leadership, from prime minister benjamin netanyahu and from his security cabinet. that...
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did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce those except those who committed it. not me. the lesson is what matters of the what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza, and the continuation. he creates such rea ramificatio. this could lead to what happened in gaza. >> our reporter said when the bombing was announced from loud speakers, there was celebration there in gaza city. i spoke to christiane amanpour. >> reporter: you were wondering about the agreement, let's hear what he had to say, let's listen. >> you say you would accept a two-state solution, but that you will not recognize israel's right to exist? >> i accept a state of the 1967. how can i accept israel? they have occupied my land. i need recognition, not the israelis. this is a reverse question. >> what do you make of what he said? christiane. >> reporter: well, i -- when there is a peace agreement, then the palestinians can decide themselves, that was hi
did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce those except those who committed it. not me. the lesson is what matters of the what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza, and the continuation. he creates such rea ramificatio. this could lead to what happened in gaza. >> our reporter said when the bombing was announced from loud speakers, there was...
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does not recognize hamas. president obama we're told has been also in very late night talks for his time zone. he's been in the far east on that east asia summit trip, but he's been talking to prime minister netanyahu, talking to the egyptian president morsi, and the u.s. has said that they really believe that the egyptians have played a very significant and very constructive role. again, we'll wait to see what happens but this is a major test for egypt, not so much for egypt, but for how egypt and the world might work together on these issues. the first time an islamist leader elected in egypt has taken part in these very, very difficult kinds of things. >> and even as they are apparently close to a deal, a lot of rockets came into israel today, including not far from where we are here in jerusalem, a whole bunch came in the south, i was there earlier in the day, and the israelis are continuing their strikes in gaza as well. >> well, that's right. the air war, so to speak, continues while the diplomacy also c
does not recognize hamas. president obama we're told has been also in very late night talks for his time zone. he's been in the far east on that east asia summit trip, but he's been talking to prime minister netanyahu, talking to the egyptian president morsi, and the u.s. has said that they really believe that the egyptians have played a very significant and very constructive role. again, we'll wait to see what happens but this is a major test for egypt, not so much for egypt, but for how egypt...
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official meeting directly with hamas officials because they boycott hamas deliberately until hamas accepts israel, accepts previous israeli/palestinian agreements and renounces the use of terror in this struggle. so it's a mess. it's a real mess right now. i don't know the outcome. if you asked me at this time yesterday, 24 hours ago, would there be a cease fire, i would have thought yes. if you ask me right now i'm saying i'm not so sure. >> wolf blitzer from jerusalem. thank you so much. >>> back here in the united states, walmart rolls back the calendar for savings when it comes to shareholders' tax bills. we'll tell you how. and why. >>> walmart push iing up its quarterly dividend payment by six days and that could save its biggest shareholder, the walton family, $180 million in federal taxes. all by making that payment in 2012 instead of 2013. alison kosik is in new york. this move is in case washington doesn't reach a deal in the so-called fiscal cliff? >> exactly. let me start with explaining exactly what a dividend is. if you own shares the dividend is this chunk of cash paid back
official meeting directly with hamas officials because they boycott hamas deliberately until hamas accepts israel, accepts previous israeli/palestinian agreements and renounces the use of terror in this struggle. so it's a mess. it's a real mess right now. i don't know the outcome. if you asked me at this time yesterday, 24 hours ago, would there be a cease fire, i would have thought yes. if you ask me right now i'm saying i'm not so sure. >> wolf blitzer from jerusalem. thank you so...
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the flip side of that is, you never know where a hamas or an alleged hamas person may be. where they may have an office in a building like this, where, you know, do they have an office on the floor below you? you don't know. and so israel considers that a target and so they're going to -- if they fire missiles into your building, you can can very easily get killed. >> one final question. did they have any clue when you walked around the street, you were wearing body arrest more and a helmet. do these folks know who you are? >> some people do. >> is cnn in gaza? >> a lot of people didn't have electricity, some people have satellite dishes, they're able to see it. but, you know, i actually don't -- you try not -- i actually didn't wear body armor all of the time. >> i saw some pictures of you wearing it. >> yeah, in some cases you would wear body armor, other times you didn't. a lot of it had to do with i was interacting with people, just regular people, i generally don't wear body armor, because i think it sends the wrong message if i'm asking people to tell me their story,
the flip side of that is, you never know where a hamas or an alleged hamas person may be. where they may have an office in a building like this, where, you know, do they have an office on the floor below you? you don't know. and so israel considers that a target and so they're going to -- if they fire missiles into your building, you can can very easily get killed. >> one final question. did they have any clue when you walked around the street, you were wearing body arrest more and a...
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israel's prime minister says hamas can end all this. ben wedeman is watching the conflict play out. >> reporter: we've seen apparent urgent action by the israeli army in this area to get as much material, tanks, armored personnel carriers and troops in the area around gaza in obvious preparation for a potential ground invasion of the gaza strip. but a decision to actually go in has to come from the leadership, from prime minister benjamin netanyahu and from his security cabinet. that has not come yet. on sunday, it's expected that the secretary general of arab league is going to come to gaza with four arab foreign ministers. it may be difficult to launch a ground invasion while just a high-level group is there. we understand that intense contacts are under way between israel and the united states to potentially talk about a cease-fire. i spoke with a senior israeli spokesman who flatly denied reports that some sort of negotiated cease-fire was on the way. at this point, don, it definitely seems that that things are moving in the directi
israel's prime minister says hamas can end all this. ben wedeman is watching the conflict play out. >> reporter: we've seen apparent urgent action by the israeli army in this area to get as much material, tanks, armored personnel carriers and troops in the area around gaza in obvious preparation for a potential ground invasion of the gaza strip. but a decision to actually go in has to come from the leadership, from prime minister benjamin netanyahu and from his security cabinet. that has...
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also an up close look at hamas and what people here really feel about hamas. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary. just a man and his thoughts. and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed. >>> one of the biggest strikes we saw yesterday was on this building. the islamic national bank. i'm assuming it was a target by israeli forces because this is the bank where salaries for hamas members are paid out from. >> that building was struck yesterday very close to the large strike that we saw earlier this evening. i'm here with ben wedeman. also joining me is princeton university's anne-marie slaughter. let's talk about hamas. fuad in the last segment was saying he thinks the gaza population is a captive population to hamas. how popular are they here? they clearly hav
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did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas, not other people, not hamas. no one can announce except those who commit it, not me. the building lesson is what matters. who committed the circumstances that led to this operation. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza. and he creates such ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said when that -- when the bombing was announced from loud speakers in hamas, there was celebratory gunfire in gaza city. i spoke to christianne amanpour about her interview. >> you pressed on whether they would ever recognize israel. he gave a lot of talking points. this is finally what he to say. let's listen. >> you say you would accept a two-state solution but won't recognize israel's right to exist. >> i accept the state of the 1967. how can i accept israel? they have occupied my land. i need recognition, not the israelis. this is a reverse question. >> what do you make of what he said? >> well, i kept pushing him
did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas, not other people, not hamas. no one can announce except those who commit it, not me. the building lesson is what matters. who committed the circumstances that led to this operation. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza. and he creates such ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said when that -- when the bombing was...
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they obviously have strong links with hamas, hamas was borne out of the muslim brotherhood. egypt also has a peace deal with israel, and they have promised to honor. yesterday, of course, egypt, officials here very optimistic, the president mohamed mursi saying a cease-fire would happen on tuesday. christine, obviously, that is not the case. violence now, the latest apparent bus attack in tel aviv appears to be escalating. >> reza sayah in cairo. we'll check in with you again soon. thank you. >>> ahead at 6:30 eastern stuart holiday joins us, head of the meridian international center who works with the state department. next hour soledad talks with israeli government spokesman mark regev. >>> a brush with death for former boxing great hester macho camacho. the 50-year-old camacho was shot in his face and neck just outside of this bar in san juan, puerto rico. police say a second man was killed in that shooting. camacho is in the hospital in serious condition and doctors say the bullet damaged two vertebrae in camacho's neck. he may have trouble, they say, walking again. >>>
they obviously have strong links with hamas, hamas was borne out of the muslim brotherhood. egypt also has a peace deal with israel, and they have promised to honor. yesterday, of course, egypt, officials here very optimistic, the president mohamed mursi saying a cease-fire would happen on tuesday. christine, obviously, that is not the case. violence now, the latest apparent bus attack in tel aviv appears to be escalating. >> reza sayah in cairo. we'll check in with you again soon. thank...
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egypt is trying to broker a cease-fire agreement with hamas. hamas seems not to be budging. so explain to us like if you're the egyptian president, what are you saying to the leader of hamas? >> the egyptians are in a very difficult situation because on the one hand mohamed morsi, the president of egypt, the muslim brotherhood, in part made its name by outright support for hamas for a radical brand of palestinian nationalism not the more moderate brand of fatah on the west bank. yet the egyptians cannot afford a situation where the united states walks away from its military aid. the egyptians have placed themselves into the center of this extraordinary drama. they're trying to work out a cease-fire. they've been working with the turkish prime minister, prime minister erdogan, the leadership of qatar, and now the u.n. chief ban ki-moon, secretary-general of the united nations, is going to be in egypt today. the sides are very far apart. it doesn't a cease-fire is imminent. but the egyptians have to work for one. they don't want to see a further intensification of this war. >>
egypt is trying to broker a cease-fire agreement with hamas. hamas seems not to be budging. so explain to us like if you're the egyptian president, what are you saying to the leader of hamas? >> the egyptians are in a very difficult situation because on the one hand mohamed morsi, the president of egypt, the muslim brotherhood, in part made its name by outright support for hamas for a radical brand of palestinian nationalism not the more moderate brand of fatah on the west bank. yet the...
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continues its assault on hamas in gaza. with no cease-fire in sight, there are concerns israeli troops may soon enter gaza widening this conflict. we're going to talk about that with cnn's chief international correspondent christiane amanpour in jerusalem joining us now. while israelis seem to be very supportive of the air strike sos far, would the israeli people support their troops moving into gaza? >> reporter: well, interestingly a poll done by the newspaper, pretty much a liberal moderate newspaper, says that while something like 84% of israelis, and i must say everyone we talk to and all the politicians do support the current air offensive on gaza, that number drops sharply if they're talking about a ground war. that drops to about 30%. and i think, you know, that's something significant to consider. but more than that, i have spoken to israeli government officials who tell me today and wanted to manufactuemphasize to that israel is hoping that the diplomatic track proves successful. they always say if this doesn't, t
continues its assault on hamas in gaza. with no cease-fire in sight, there are concerns israeli troops may soon enter gaza widening this conflict. we're going to talk about that with cnn's chief international correspondent christiane amanpour in jerusalem joining us now. while israelis seem to be very supportive of the air strike sos far, would the israeli people support their troops moving into gaza? >> reporter: well, interestingly a poll done by the newspaper, pretty much a liberal...
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hamas had very few friends. in fact, it could only look, for instance, to syria and iran for real support. but recently, of course, hamas has broken from iran. its offices in syria have been shuttered, and it has become very close to egypt, which is now under the leadership of mohamed morsi, a member of the muslim brotherhood. it also enjoys very close relations with qatar and turkey. so i followed these arab ministers around gaza today. they went to the shiffa hospital where many wounded are staying. and i spoke with several of them. many of them stressing one interesting point. that the arab spring has changed the way arab countries approach gaza. before countries like egypt were very wary of offending their american patrons and kept hamas at an arm's length. dealt with hamas, but it was well-known he did not like hamas at all, given its affiliations with the muslim brotherhood in egypt. some of these ministers telling me that they feel that the united states in this crisis has played a very passive role in tr
hamas had very few friends. in fact, it could only look, for instance, to syria and iran for real support. but recently, of course, hamas has broken from iran. its offices in syria have been shuttered, and it has become very close to egypt, which is now under the leadership of mohamed morsi, a member of the muslim brotherhood. it also enjoys very close relations with qatar and turkey. so i followed these arab ministers around gaza today. they went to the shiffa hospital where many wounded are...
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and then hamas, i kept thinking what does hamas get out of it? hamas even though you wouldn't say there's certainly nothing like what everybody else is getting, but they do get in a p.r. sense they get to say to the islamic world we took the fight to israel. even if in the long run it ends in a cease-fire, symbolically they stood up. that strengthens their position visavee mahmoud abass looking very, very weak in all of this, wolf. >> jill dougherty at the white house for us with some good reporting. jill, thanks very much. anderson cooper has left gaza and is now here in jerusalem. he's standing by to join me in our next hour. anderson knows what's going on. he's seen this conflict over the past few days up close. we're going to get his take on the cease-fire not even three hours old yet. what's going on? anderson cooper will be here with me. also, my interview with israel's president shimon perez, what he makes of the many challenges facing israel right now. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone.
and then hamas, i kept thinking what does hamas get out of it? hamas even though you wouldn't say there's certainly nothing like what everybody else is getting, but they do get in a p.r. sense they get to say to the islamic world we took the fight to israel. even if in the long run it ends in a cease-fire, symbolically they stood up. that strengthens their position visavee mahmoud abass looking very, very weak in all of this, wolf. >> jill dougherty at the white house for us with some...
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wailing sirens warning an hamas ha rocket is only seconds away. this is video from the israeli defense force, a missile hitting a home of a hamas leader. they're proof that the exploesers are stored in buildings. spearheading talks aimed at ending the violence. it's impossible to know how this will play out. just remember that four years ago, the last time israel invaded gaza, 13 israelis were killed while 1400 palestinians died. ben wedeman joins me. does it look like we're about to witness a ground war here? >> well, it certainly looks like preparations are being made for it. we have seen a lot of heavy armor going by on the road right next to us, tanks, armors personnel carriers all evening long. there's a lot of soldiers in the area, so obviously the israeli military is gearing up for a ground incursion. just heard a very loud explosion. i guess you heard that, too. more over there. so yes, definitely, that's the case. but obviously, don, they have to wait for the political leadership to make a final decision. and while all the preparations fo
wailing sirens warning an hamas ha rocket is only seconds away. this is video from the israeli defense force, a missile hitting a home of a hamas leader. they're proof that the exploesers are stored in buildings. spearheading talks aimed at ending the violence. it's impossible to know how this will play out. just remember that four years ago, the last time israel invaded gaza, 13 israelis were killed while 1400 palestinians died. ben wedeman joins me. does it look like we're about to witness a...
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that has elevated hamas. they were fighting their arch enemy if you will and -- >> not recognizing the state of israel and israel views hamas as -- >> as a terrorist organization. >> yes. >> what does that mean moving forward for any kind of actual solution, two-state solution down the road? >> let's see if this were -- this will be overly optimistic, if this were to convince hamas that, you know what, you should accept the conditions of the united states, the european union, others have put forward, you will be recognized, you will be recognized as a -- people will talk to you, you accept israel, you renounce terrorism, and you accept previous israeli palestinian agreements, that would be a significant step forward. i'm not saying hamas is going to do that and we're not getting any indication they're doing it. at the same time, maybe this could be a potential down the road long-term breakthrough if that were to happen. >> the other concern is that hamas will use this time to replenish their stockpile of incr
that has elevated hamas. they were fighting their arch enemy if you will and -- >> not recognizing the state of israel and israel views hamas as -- >> as a terrorist organization. >> yes. >> what does that mean moving forward for any kind of actual solution, two-state solution down the road? >> let's see if this were -- this will be overly optimistic, if this were to convince hamas that, you know what, you should accept the conditions of the united states, the...
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which has been supplying hamas with long range rockets and training hamas commanders how to fire from underground launch sites. here what he is israeli prime minister -- i'm sorry, israeli president shimon peres had to say to iran with our piers morgan. >> obviously' serious situation escalating by the hour now. how do you see this resolving itself? >> well, there is an attempt to introduce a cease-fire. we have a positive. the positive is the constructive war that the egyptian president is playing right now and we appreciate very much his efforts. the other one is the iranians. they are trying again to encourage hamas to continue their shooting, the bombing, they are trying to send the bombs. >> if you believe, mr. president, that iran is behind a lot of the hamas terror activities, as you put it, then what action do you intend to take against iran? >> not that i guess so, i know that is the case. and we're not going to make a war with iran, but we are trying to prevent the shipping of long range missiles, which iran is sending to hamas. >> and that's israeli president and former pri
which has been supplying hamas with long range rockets and training hamas commanders how to fire from underground launch sites. here what he is israeli prime minister -- i'm sorry, israeli president shimon peres had to say to iran with our piers morgan. >> obviously' serious situation escalating by the hour now. how do you see this resolving itself? >> well, there is an attempt to introduce a cease-fire. we have a positive. the positive is the constructive war that the egyptian...
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that three-week blitz did not kill hamas. the hamas is still strong, and there, and now they're firing rockets. what's the bend game for both sides? >> because three or four years ago we stopped short of outputting the entire infrastructure. we are kind of reluctant warriors. we do not want to get into gaza if we don't have to. they keep firing at us. we will have to do it so a ground operation is still in the cards. it's kind of a touch and go. and we have very, very simple, specific goals. >> what would be the thing that would trigger a ground operation. what were happen that you say, that's it, we're in? >> i would say if we will see in the next 24, 36 hours more rockets, launched at us, i think that will be the trigger. >> so it's just more rockets. >> that's not a very long time frame. another day and a half, two days? >> touch and go, god forbid if they hit a kindergarten or a school and many casualties in israel of course we would have to do everything to defend ourselves and we will achieve it. the question is, the qu
that three-week blitz did not kill hamas. the hamas is still strong, and there, and now they're firing rockets. what's the bend game for both sides? >> because three or four years ago we stopped short of outputting the entire infrastructure. we are kind of reluctant warriors. we do not want to get into gaza if we don't have to. they keep firing at us. we will have to do it so a ground operation is still in the cards. it's kind of a touch and go. and we have very, very simple, specific...
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hamas is a new player. we don't have control not only over hamas but we don't have the relationship with egypt we used to have, when we had a single individu individual, so-called dictator, mubarak, who was very prowestern pro american. we could have a conversation like this with him. now you have along ideological group, hamas, in charge of gaza and an ideaologyical president, morsi, in charge of will egypt. >> ironically, both democratically elected. >> that's true. downside of the arab spring is that in the near term the views of the people are if you take them into account are very, very difficult to deal with. >> dictators sometimes can manage their people in terrible ways, but also just can handle it. and that is both the upside and downside of the uprising, right? >> absolutely. mubarak did have control over his population, he d he he had a pro western view. we had an egyptian leader of the most populous country in the region against iran, against terrorism and against hamas. so these three crucial g
hamas is a new player. we don't have control not only over hamas but we don't have the relationship with egypt we used to have, when we had a single individu individual, so-called dictator, mubarak, who was very prowestern pro american. we could have a conversation like this with him. now you have along ideological group, hamas, in charge of gaza and an ideaologyical president, morsi, in charge of will egypt. >> ironically, both democratically elected. >> that's true. downside of...
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with hamas. now, clinton cannot speak with hamas directly because the united states considers it a terrorist group. so by talking to palestinians she can reach hamas. talking to egypt's president is going to be her last stop. as we see here. so by talking to egypt, that's another way for her to communicate with hamas. the region is watching her every step. not only for a cease-fire, but perhaps also for a long-term resolution. a member of hamas told cnn by phone today how his organization is looking to see what the u.s. does. >> i think the egyptians are waiting for some support from the united states in order to make an -- we expect to have an outcome of this today. >> you have so many moving parts in all of this. there is a discrepancy, hamas saying this was a cease-fire, but israel is call iing it a ca down period. and here is israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, moments before word came. >> no country would tolerate rocket attacks against its cities and against its civilians. israel c
with hamas. now, clinton cannot speak with hamas directly because the united states considers it a terrorist group. so by talking to palestinians she can reach hamas. talking to egypt's president is going to be her last stop. as we see here. so by talking to egypt, that's another way for her to communicate with hamas. the region is watching her every step. not only for a cease-fire, but perhaps also for a long-term resolution. a member of hamas told cnn by phone today how his organization is...
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they say the leaders are motivated by a desire to show they're strong on hamas. in fact, we spoke to one palestinian lawmaker who stressed the point that really this is all about politics. >> and ben, of course, one of the big concerns right now -- >> escalation was initiated by israel. there was a cease fire. there was a truce, which was violated by israel several times. unfortunately, we all don't want to have any innocent person hit or hurt, but it seems that mr. netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, decided to use israeli and palestinian blood for his election campaign. >> and certainly because there are elections planned for january of next year here in israel, it's widely expected that prime minister netanyahu will be re-elected for another term. this is the connection many palestinians are making. >> this is a delicate situation, ben. obviously all over the region, particularly for the new government in egypt. i understand there will be big demonstrations in cairo today. what are the risks right mow of egypt being drawn in fourth this conflict? >> the c
they say the leaders are motivated by a desire to show they're strong on hamas. in fact, we spoke to one palestinian lawmaker who stressed the point that really this is all about politics. >> and ben, of course, one of the big concerns right now -- >> escalation was initiated by israel. there was a cease fire. there was a truce, which was violated by israel several times. unfortunately, we all don't want to have any innocent person hit or hurt, but it seems that mr. netanyahu, the...
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hamas says israel is to blame. people live in fear of how close the attacks will come. listen to one man in gaza just last night. >> i fear my life is at risk by merely being out the streets. i literally felt i could lose my life at any moment. target i targeting israeli civilians, i might as well -- >> he was able to reconnect with us moments later. other nations are scrambling to try to get israel and hamas to take a step back. egypt's prime minister and president arrived in gaza today. a planned cease-fire for the visit never materialized while president mohamed morsi made it clear whose side egypt is on. >> translator: we support the people of gaza. we are with them in their trenches. what hurts them hurts us. and the blood that flows from their children is our blood too. >> so most of the west, including the united states sides with israel. a nation now on the brink of staging a ground assault. israel's deputy foreign minister told cnn this morning that would trigger that move. >> if we will see in the next 24
hamas says israel is to blame. people live in fear of how close the attacks will come. listen to one man in gaza just last night. >> i fear my life is at risk by merely being out the streets. i literally felt i could lose my life at any moment. target i targeting israeli civilians, i might as well -- >> he was able to reconnect with us moments later. other nations are scrambling to try to get israel and hamas to take a step back. egypt's prime minister and president arrived in gaza...
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i don't think the egyptians or hamas should be under any delusions here, if hamas rockets continue to be fired into israel, israelis have the responsibility to protect their population. >> egypt has reached out to president obama and the united states saying help us stop the violence there. so, ken, the united states is going to get sucked into this, regardless? >> no, i don't think the united states is going to get sucked in. they've provided weapons and air dome to prevent rockets from coming in. i think the united states is much more interested in what impact will hamas' success or failure have upon the rest of the region. here, we have to think about jordan and king abdullah's instability. i think we worry about insurgencies in general, hezbollah and hamas. hezbollah, if it felt that hamas was successful, would it start something from the north? and i think israel, over the broader perspective, is very interested in being sure that hamas is put back on its heels and not able to attack israel. that becomes very important for israel in the long run if it decides some time in the fut
i don't think the egyptians or hamas should be under any delusions here, if hamas rockets continue to be fired into israel, israelis have the responsibility to protect their population. >> egypt has reached out to president obama and the united states saying help us stop the violence there. so, ken, the united states is going to get sucked into this, regardless? >> no, i don't think the united states is going to get sucked in. they've provided weapons and air dome to prevent rockets...
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i mean, for hamas, hamas elected here by the people here. and especially under fire, there's been a lot of support and real questions remain about if there is a cease fire, moving forward, whether hamas is actually improved its situation politically over the other palestinian group fatah. we'll have to wait and see how that plays out in the days ahead. >> yeah. i suppose if there is a cease fire, that will dramatically increase hamas's stature among palestinians and other arabs, i would venture to say. i have no doubt about that. thanks very much. any moment it seems the conflict between the israelis and hamas could tip one way or another toward a cease-fire or a major ground war. joining us now, the spokesman for the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu. mark, thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure, sir. >> how close are you to a cease-fire? >> i don't know. i hope close but i can't say for certain. if it's possible to solve it through diplomatic means, we are happy to and prepared if need be to upscale, upgrade the military option.
i mean, for hamas, hamas elected here by the people here. and especially under fire, there's been a lot of support and real questions remain about if there is a cease fire, moving forward, whether hamas is actually improved its situation politically over the other palestinian group fatah. we'll have to wait and see how that plays out in the days ahead. >> yeah. i suppose if there is a cease fire, that will dramatically increase hamas's stature among palestinians and other arabs, i would...
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israel doesn't speak to hamas. the u.s. doesn't speak to hamas. you're basically relying on the egyptian government of mohamed morsi. >> and we hope that the egyptians can play a positive role in this. let's be clear here. israel has options. if the diplomatic process proves to be unsuccessful, we will act as my prime minister said earlier today. we can defend ourselves and we can use our military to silence those rockets, to prevent those rockets. we prefer a diplomatic solution. and the diplomatic ball is in play. the two leaders, my prime minister and secretary clinton are meeting now as we speak. she's going obviously to egypt tomorrow to continue talks there. i hope that this diplomatic path brings fruit that we do get the peace and quiet that we want. we'll see. either way, we'll give a certain amount of time for this diplomacy. we hope it can work. we prefer the diplomacy succeed. but israel will not sit be idly. >> you're not ruling out a ground invasion by israeli forces, tanks, armored tender nel carriers, thousands of troops into gaza?
israel doesn't speak to hamas. the u.s. doesn't speak to hamas. you're basically relying on the egyptian government of mohamed morsi. >> and we hope that the egyptians can play a positive role in this. let's be clear here. israel has options. if the diplomatic process proves to be unsuccessful, we will act as my prime minister said earlier today. we can defend ourselves and we can use our military to silence those rockets, to prevent those rockets. we prefer a diplomatic solution. and the...
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with hamas. turkey of course, egypt, qatar and because of that president obama today for instance called turkish prime minister to talk about this. two days ago he talked to egyptian president morsi in addition to talking to prime minister netanyahu. and egypt key of course because of its peace agreement that it has with israel. so you see secretary clinton has made two calls to the foreign minister of egypt. she's called the foreign minister of turkey. the goal here obviously to stop any escalation into a ground war, into a conflict that would pit israel not only against hamas but other arab nations as well. >> as you know, the egyptian prime minister was in gaza, met with hamas, expressed total support for hamas, recalled their ambassador from tel aviv, the israelis recalled their ambassador from cairo. is the obama administration, brianna, confident that the egyptian president mohamed morsi can deliver right now? >> reporter: i've been told by one senior administration official that they are c
with hamas. turkey of course, egypt, qatar and because of that president obama today for instance called turkish prime minister to talk about this. two days ago he talked to egyptian president morsi in addition to talking to prime minister netanyahu. and egypt key of course because of its peace agreement that it has with israel. so you see secretary clinton has made two calls to the foreign minister of egypt. she's called the foreign minister of turkey. the goal here obviously to stop any...
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hamas issuing its demand for a cease-fire. they want israel to end a long-running military blockade of gaza immediately. the carnage from the last 24 hours, arwa damon is in gaza city. >> reporter: the large slab of concrete and mangled metal finally gives way. buried beneath it, another lifeless body. it's the second child we've seen. there was also a baby. others in the neighborhood say the blast killed all ten people who lived here. israel says it was targeting a man who heads a rocket launch unit. people we spoke with said they never heard of him. this was a family home. >> people here are telling us that so far those who have been killed in this strike have been women and children. and they have not been able to find any survivors. just moments ago, from that back corner, they did pull out the body of a tiny child. an over here there's another frantic effort under way. tempers easily flare as frustration and anger mount. >> she's my uncle's wife, this young man shouts. rage coupled with sorrow etched across his face. this
hamas issuing its demand for a cease-fire. they want israel to end a long-running military blockade of gaza immediately. the carnage from the last 24 hours, arwa damon is in gaza city. >> reporter: the large slab of concrete and mangled metal finally gives way. buried beneath it, another lifeless body. it's the second child we've seen. there was also a baby. others in the neighborhood say the blast killed all ten people who lived here. israel says it was targeting a man who heads a rocket...
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hamas emerges a a big winner from this conflict and its truce. >> hamas has emerged stronger. it's consolidated control over gausa. they may yet manage to get an easing of the blockade if a more presence e deal welcome back done. >> look what they've accomplished. they, rather than abbas, has put the palestinian issue back on the international stage. >> reporter: that brings us to those that have lost much in this conflict. mahmoud abbas and his fatah faction. the palestinian leaders were supposed to be the moderate peace brokers. now they can't even claim to speak for all palestinians and proved they have no leverage with hamas, their arch-rival. >> this is not a good outcome for abbas and the two-state solution. >> always a player, riran's han is arguably weaken the. iron dome shot hundreds of missiles out of the sky. what if israel attacks iran? can it still call on hamas to retaliate? in one week with one truce allies and enemies in the region have shifted again. this will have an impact on any peace negotiations going forward. cnn, atlanta.
hamas emerges a a big winner from this conflict and its truce. >> hamas has emerged stronger. it's consolidated control over gausa. they may yet manage to get an easing of the blockade if a more presence e deal welcome back done. >> look what they've accomplished. they, rather than abbas, has put the palestinian issue back on the international stage. >> reporter: that brings us to those that have lost much in this conflict. mahmoud abbas and his fatah faction. the palestinian...
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we exacted an enormous price from hamas. we killed the military chief of hamas. we also showed that the iron dome anti-rocket system works quite well. for hamas it would seem to me the victory speech would probably be something like, hamas has shown the world that its military capacity is now greater than it was and that they could endanger citizens in both tel-aviv and jerusalem, the population centers. the long-term challenge, though, is how do we create a political dynamic which avoids this kind of confrontation in the first place and bring the more moderate palestinian forces represented by president abbas into this equation. unfortunately, though, president abbas seems poised to go to the u.n. at the end of this month and seek to enhance the palestinian status, which will create a whole nother set of circumstances which will -- which will dry up funding for the palestinians and cause there to be even greater tension between the israelis and the palestinians. >> i don't know berman here. one of the things that makes this situation even more difficult is when
we exacted an enormous price from hamas. we killed the military chief of hamas. we also showed that the iron dome anti-rocket system works quite well. for hamas it would seem to me the victory speech would probably be something like, hamas has shown the world that its military capacity is now greater than it was and that they could endanger citizens in both tel-aviv and jerusalem, the population centers. the long-term challenge, though, is how do we create a political dynamic which avoids this...
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this is the militant wing of hamas. this is one of the latest pictures they have put on twitter a few hours back, talking about an israeli massacre occurring in gaza today. you can see a lot of pictures coming through. lately a lot of pictures they have put up have been like this one. this is a man we reported on. this one says, his blood will be a curse on israel's military and political leaders. that's the message they put up along with that one. there is another picture of him. on the idf twitter site, lots of posts. they keep coming, coming, coming. this is a photo of israeli children and parents sleeping in a bomb shelter that is one of the examples of the places in which people have developed shelters because they have been living under the threat of rocket attacks for so long. also in the israel defense forces using a lot of youtube. we are seeing them put out lots of videos throughout the day. this is an example of them saying this is a recap of what happened on the fifth day of fighting. i want to show you a co
this is the militant wing of hamas. this is one of the latest pictures they have put on twitter a few hours back, talking about an israeli massacre occurring in gaza today. you can see a lot of pictures coming through. lately a lot of pictures they have put up have been like this one. this is a man we reported on. this one says, his blood will be a curse on israel's military and political leaders. that's the message they put up along with that one. there is another picture of him. on the idf...